Wednesday, June 18, 2008

The False Story of "Sister Charlotte"

Sean, over at "Sean's Faith Website" has already done an excellent expose on this fake nun. I would just like to add some to his research.

Charlotte Keckler was a pseudonym used by a woman who traveled the country in the 60's, 70's and 80's claiming to have "escaped" from a Carmelite Convent. However, she never names this convent, just that it is "foreign". But in reading her story it is interesting to note that in this country everyone speaks English. England, possibly, but I was unable to locate any Carmelite convents in England. It could not be Canada because she states that part of her journey home was on a ship.

A "pastor" by the name of Reckart put up a website defending this one and giving his proof. His proof is her Social Security Death record:


NameBirthDeathLast ResidenceLast BenefitSSNIssuedToolsOrder
Record?
CHARLOTTE KECKLER 12 Apr 1898Sep 198394558 (Napa, Napa, CA)(none specified)261-58-5764FloridaSS-5 Letter
Add Post-em
Search Ancestry.com
Click here to order a copy of the original record



According to the Social Security Number Decoder, we know that this SSN was issued in Florida in 1951. "Sister" Charlotte's testimony never mentions her living in Florida. That also raises the issue of where was she between 1898 and 1951? Turning to what we do know, thanks to Rootsweb, we can see her death record as well:

Results 1-1 of 1
Last NameFirst NameMiddleBirth DateMother MaidenFather LastSexBirth PlaceDeath PlaceResidenceDeath DateSSNAgePost-emsOrder
Record
KECKLER CHARLOTTE EDNA 04/12/1898 TRIGGS
F IOWA NAPA
09/28/1983 261-58-5764 85 yrs AddOrder a copy of the original certificate from RootsWeb.com


This gives us a little more info. But a search of the Iowa census at Heritage Quest does not reveal a Charlotte Keckler in Iowa at all in 1900, 1910 or 1920. Neither does it show her (alleged) brother John or sister Connie. So it appears the name she gave in death is as fictitious as her life. Add this to Sean's research and it can safely be said this woman was a fraud.

84 comments:

Rosamundi said...

There are several Carmelite convents in the UK - 15 (I think) in England, 4 in Scotland, and 1 in Wales. Several of them were in existence at the time that "Sister Charlotte" was alleged to be being held captive and tortured. However, other aspects of the story do not gel with this mysterious overseas convent being in England.

kmerian said...

Thanks for the info!

Anonymous said...

I can tell you for sure that her story is REAL! The little bit of research work you have done.
Is that of a first grader. I dont want to sound mean however I have not done the correct research. Her story Is not only true it is in line with the bible. She is bringing out the truth about the antichrist system of pagan Rome. I hope this comment is not deleted and you are fair enough to allow people to contact me directly if they wish to find out more of the facts. My cell is 407-485-4605

kmerian said...

You say her story is real, yet admit that you have not done the research? But instead insult me? I admit in my post that my research is just a supplement to the work of others and is to be taken as such.

"Sister" Charlotte obviously lied about many parts of her background. That her story is in line with someones interpretation of the Bible is IRRELEVANT.

If you want to be crazy enough to post your cell number on the internet, I won't stop you. But I stand by my research and that of my source which can be seen here:
http://tinyurl.com/dkxsup

Anonymous said...

I would just say, if you are so sure she made it up perhaps your daughter would like to join the order and then if she escapes maybe you would then believe Sister Charlotte.

kmerian said...

I would be proud if my daughter was called to be a Carmelite, I have known a few and that is why I know this story to be completely false. Her bio is also clearly false as attested to by her SSN and the fact that she lied about her upbringing.

Anonymous said...

My dear friend, I am saddened by your alligence to that church system, can you not see that the church is the very beast that Revelations speaks of
REV 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Listen to the word of God,
REV 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Her days are numbered.. do not be numbered with her as the rulers of this world have

REVELATION 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

REVELATION 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

I truly hope this will waken you to the reality of the deception of the church, All church systems are of the Devil, not the people but the systems, come out of it go back to the truth.. go back to the WORD of God. Do not accept any man made creeds or Dogmas but look into God's word, and listen to the messanger for your day, William Branham is that messanger.
I hope this will open someone's eyes.
Take care

rootie said...

I guess next you will tell us that the inquisition never happened. Oh well, you Catholics do such a gret job of covering up... the tricks go on and on.

kmerian said...

Of course the inquisition happened, but Charlotte Keckler, whoever she was, was never a nun. Your opinions about Catholics don't change that.

Anonymous said...

Remember that the name she used was a PSEUDONYM, not her REAL NAME. That means whatever Charlotte Keckler you are referring to in public records is not the same woman, public records would have her true name, which we don't know as we only know who she is by her pseudo name.

kmerian said...

Actually, "Charlotte Wells" was the pseudonym she employed. She claimed her real name was Charlotte Keckler, and her supporters use that Social Security number as proof of her identity.

The problem is that prior to that record being issued in 1951, there is no record of this woman, anywhere.

Anonymous said...

Whatever her real name, the woman is giving her true testimony. She converted to the Apostolic faith later and was filled with the Holy Ghost, and went on several church circuits telling what happened to her. If it saves one unknowing soul from going through the literal hell she went through, than thank you God. I know some have a hard time grasping the truths this woman testified to, but that doesn't do away with the fact that they are true. I'm sure many wouldn't have believed the countless stories out now about Catholic priests molesting children either.

Anonymous said...

And not only countless stories, but the actual court cases about priests molesting children. This stuff is coming to light, I believe God is revealing things and the true nature of the system of the Roman Catholic Church in this last day. Did you know in Indianopolis and Pittsburg they found the remains of infants/infants skulls, etc. at the sites of old convents when excavating for new construction?

kmerian said...

You have no way of knowing if this womans story is true or not. Saying it is true because you want it to be is not proof in and of itself. That she went on church circuts and speaking tours, means nothing. There have been many people who have duped others in the name of religion (ever hear of Jim Jones?).

There is a difference between the molestation cases and Sister charlotte, there is proof in the molestation cases. Names, dates, physical evidence, all the things missing in the "Sister Charlotte" case.

You claim Charlotte Keckler was not her real name, in other words, you admit she lies about her identity, that does not really set up her credibility if the first words she speaks are lies, does it?

Also, her testimony is full of inaccuracies and outright lies about Catholicism (that Catholics can lie if it is to defend the church, that Catholics can steal up to $40 and not consider it a sin). Those are outright lies.

Finally, I would like to see your source material for the "infant skulls" in Pittsburg and Indianapolis at the site of old convents. I seriously doubt them. I did a google search and could find NOT ONE story.

Back it up please.

Anonymous said...

Wow,what an incredible story. If this story is false then she has quite an imagination. Who is able to make up a story that long and detailed? Similar to the RCC, if the RCC is the true church, then she is exceedingly wicked and belongs in the deepest part of hell. If the RCC is not the true church then it is an abomination before a Holy God and the greatest enemy of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ who alone has the power to save (Rom 1:16).

kmerian said...

Yes, it is long, but sorely lacking in detail. What is her real name? Where is the convent, what is its name? Her story is a lie, plain and simple, anyone who reads it who knows anything about the real Catholic Church knows it is false.

Anonymous said...

If someone changes their name, it would be for the safety of themselves and/or their family, among other reasons. With the content of her story in mind, I wouldn't want to give my name or real names and/or locations either. If the story is true, it would be to her detriment to give actual names. If the story is false, then she would need to explain why she would go through the trouble and time to get the story to people with girls in these convents? If she hated the RCC, and wanted to disparage them, then why was the story focused on the girls mistreatment and not on, say, "the evils of the Holy RCC"? I really believe if we took a listen to her testimony, understanding that we must pray to God for the opening of our hearts to know truth and what is fraudulent. God is not a God of secrecy, as evidenced by the Holy Scriptures. Instead of defending religions and people, we ought to take the time and read the Holy Bible from cover to cover. Jesus, when tempted by Satan said, "It is written..." In other words, Jesus, from a child read the scriptures of the patriarchs and prophets. If the Son of God took the time to read prophecies concerning himself, then who are we to NOT read the Bible? Yet, we take the time to defend a religion? Focus on researching and studying the Bible with prayer. Trust me, God WILL answer your prayer to know truth. This is His universe. He will not turn down the earnest petition of one of His precious creatures. Be Blessed. It seems as if you intend on finding and discovering truth about this story. Don't give up until all is revealed on this story.

kmerian said...

What would she have to fear? Take Richard Bennett over at Bearean Beacon. Former Priest, he still uses his real name, where he went to Seminary, when, where he served and when, etc.

The story was based on the girls "mistreatments" because that draws the crouds, lets face it, sex and violence sell. But she also tells bold faced lies about Catholic beliefs, such as that Catholics are allowed to steal up to $40, or that Catholics are allowed to lie under certain circumstances. Those are bigoted lies and proof she was no Catholic.

You are right, God is not a God of secrecy, so you have to ask yourself why Charlotte was so secretive? I have read the Bible, cover to cover, and God has led me to the truth, that this woman is a liar.

Anonymous said...

I appreciate your unexpectedly quick response to this fairly dated post. However, I didn't mean the "truth" about Sister Charlotte found by reading the Bible. Reading the Bible won't prove or disprove anything about Sister Charlotte. Rather, reading the Bible will produce a change in character that is like Christ's. Reading the Bible will allow a person access to God's ideal for man, showing that person real accounts of actual events that are consistent with World History. In turn, reading how God responded to those people, gives us a good indication of what He approves or disproves of. Take your pick: any account in the Bible is always a testament as to how God feels about us. Yes, indeed, that is how much He has cared for this fallen world. There is no guessing as to what God feels about how we should treat Him, as well as our fellow man.

The apostles said that we should follow in the example of Christ. How can we dare assume that everyone opposed to our view of the world is wrong and heretical? Is that the way Christ handled His accusers? Please don't take this as a scolding to your post. I would have rather seen a detailed response to sister charlotte's claims, because I actually listened to it before coming across this post. If someone accuses your denomination of something and you are trying to defend it, be prepared to ask the tough questions and ask a lot of "why is this or that so". Don't leave out anything, for you don't want to be accused of hiding information either... Just a suggestion.

As a truth-seeker unbiased by religious affiliation, I am seeking the truth as found in the Word of God, who made the heavens and the earth. The only true faith on this planet is that which honors God like Jesus did. Everything He did, gives us a blueprint on which to model our lives after.

To be quite truthful, I was quite disturbed to hear sister charlotte's testimony, and could only think of my teenage daughter that I love so much. I could only tell you that I was almost in tears as I listened. However, before deeming her a fraud, I would like to look at both sides completely. I would have to do my own research and see if there is any validity to her testimony.

Lastly,

My brother, I believe you desire to seek truth out of whatever you believe. I believe you've researched all your beliefs and not just believed them out of loyalty to a particular denomination. I know you've considered Jim Jones and how he had hundreds of people following him to death. Yet, they would've cursed you to your face for saying anything contrary to what he said. Instead of reading the Bible for themselves, they allowed someone (another human) to tell them what the scriptures say and mean. Ultimately, they still had access to the real scriptures, as we all do as free-willed individuals on this planet.

Feel free to contact me. I will keep checking back to see your reply.

Be Blessed my friend. Christ Loves You and So Do I !! : )

Catherine said...

Whether anyone believes these events occurred is irrelevant, the point of her presentation is to provide a testimony at the very least of 1) how God reached into her life 2) exposed her to true Biblical Doctrine and 3) allowed her to share this truth with others.

The fact is, and my be thoroughly researched by anyone, that the Catholic church has changed Biblical doctrine throughout the ages. Take a look at what they did to baptism. They changed the baptismal 'formula' the Apostles used as well as the age of the candidate from being at an age of knowledge to being an infant 8-days old. These the Catholic church introduced beginning in about the 4th Century AD under Constantine and true Biblical doctrine under this system has been falling away ever since.

The Bible warns us in Deuteronomy and in Revelation that we are not to add to nor take away from the Word of God. If we believe what John 1:1 says, we can understand that any deviation from the word is also and must be a deviation from God.

Jesus came not to establish a religion, nor overthrow a government (as the Jews thought), but to establish a relationship with you and I. We can know this path by reading the one book in the Bible which was written so that the lost would know how to become born again, as instructed by Jesus in John 3.

By the Word you can know false teaching and false prophets. Get in the Word and know for yourself for by it you and I will be judged!

Timothy W. Doney said...

You have to be kidding me, trying to "Expose" a woman who's dead. Thats almost as ruthless as trying to hang her while she's in the grave. I will just type some things out that Caught my attention.

Ok Lets establish the time frame again, 1898 to 1951..When Charlotte was a teen about the age of 16 1/2.. 1914 lets say she enters the Convent. (NOW LETS BE REMINDED SOCIAL SECURITY CARDS WERE NOT AROUND AT THE TIME THEY CAME NOVEMBER 1936. 22 years after Charlotte was 14.. which would have made her about 36 years old herself. I dont think Charlotte was 60 years old when she excaped from the Convent. I believe maybe she was in her 30's. Also, Roman Catholics Kept all the Birth Records and they had their own Census records of the communities that you cant simply find in Rootsweb.org.. Sorry im just stating the woman was a Roman Catholic, the records would be in the community she lived in and not on the internet.
(I study Geneology I know what I'm talking about)
note in the testimony these words:
"And so now all identification of who Charlotte was is going to be put away, it'll be taken away from me. And if you knew me and would come to the convent and call for my family name they'd tell you there isn't such a person as that. I don't exist. Even though I'm right there, because I'm writing under another name."

I also want to know where anyone Mentions Canada or England.. I never hear Charlotte mentioning any forein Place, accept for Old Mexico where the Lime Pits were and Are if you google them. Remember this woman has not really a clue where she is its in the early 1900's and she is promised a high School Education and College Education if she joines the Convent. If she didnt have the High School Education where would she know where she was at? This was a secret ordeal, im sure they didnt let everyone know where this convent was because there would be questions on where peoples daughters were if they never went home.
I am so strongly in disagreement with the Roman Catholic Church, I have 2 ancestor's who were young boys who both died in Roman Catholic Boarding Schools, one was pushed down a flight of stairs but no action was taken against a priest but yet the situation was covered up. The other starved todeath. This is a serious matter during this Time Period the people couldnt just dispute the Roman Catholic Church.
The Testimony has more Credibility then the "Expose" Theory that you came up with. Charlotte is not the only one letting the world know about these situations, many Teen boys came forth, other Nun's told of the Lime pits.. The church is not the same as it was, alot of things had happened to change it from being how it was. the church was EXPOSED!!
I simply find this pathetic to trying to expose a woman who spent most of her young adult life surving a Corrupt church, but I find it amazing how she found Salvation in the end not through a church or its religion but through Christ Jesus and him Alone.

kmerian said...

Timothy, thank you for your comments, first of all, the woman being dead, does not grant her story immediate credibility. It is false now and it was false then.

Every 10 years the US Government takes the official census, (being familiar with genealogy you should know this) EVERYONE was counted, Catholics did not do their own counts, nor were they exempt from the census. Charlotte was born in 1898, that means she should have been listed as a 2 year old in the 1900 census, and a 12 year old in the 1910, however, she is in neither, interestingly enough, neither are either of her siblings.

Also, she states in her "testimony" that when she escaped from the convent she was in a foreign country (since everyone speaks English, we must assume it is an English speaking foreign country such as England or Canada) She even states friends helped her get a visa to return to the US.

She admits she uses a pseudonym, but then claims she "is afraid of no one". She sounds like those guys that con girls by claiming to work for the CIA, and they say if you call the CIA to confirm, the CIA has to deny it. The denial becomes proof. It's a con game.

I don't know who Charlotte Keckler was, but she made a living claiming to be something she was not. Her ignorance of the Carmelites, the Catholic Church, and Catholics in general, betrays her there. Like Maria Monk, she was a fraud.

Anonymous said...

The California death index shows that Charlotte Edna Keckler was born in Iowa in April 1898 and that her mother's maiden name was Triggs. The Iowa marriages index at https://beta.familysearch.org/ lists a Cora Belle Triggs marrying a William Cackler or Caekler in 1898. The 1900 census shows this family in Clarke county, Iowa and they did have a daughter born in April 1898. Her name was listed as Edna in 1900. This family lived in Kansas during the 1910-1930 censuses, and her name as listed as Rhoda Cackler, Cacler, and Keckler. Assuming this is the same person, and it probably is, her story can't be true because she was supposed to have been trapped in a convent from 1911-1933, not living in Hiawatha, Kansas working at a hospital and as a bookkeeper as the censuses show.

g said...

There is a group of satan worshippers called 'the brotherhood' that has set up churches posing as Christian churches even in recent years. Perhaps some such organization or an organized crime group like the mafia has infiltrated the Catholic church in the past and established convents.

mfb said...

I helped publish the book Charlotte wrote, FROM CONVENT TO PENTECOST. She was in a convent in Quebec, Canada. Charlotte WAS a Carmelite nun. She would not say it was in Canada during her testimony. But it was.

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Mica Joiner said...

The Catholic Church is the largest Christian church in the world. The Catholic Church helps more people then any church in the world! The Nuns at convents all over the world take care of many people that other religions would not even look at. St. Peter did build the church for Jesus and, the Catholic Church always has been and always will be the strongest Christian Religion of all time. Why? Because, God himself looks over it. Satan has always tried his best to cause the down fall of the Catholic church and, why would he not...To those outside of the Catholic Church, I would like to say, believe as you wish, think what you would like...the Devil has tried this way of putting doubt in the minds of people about the Catholic Church in the same way time and time again! Why do Catholics not listen?....We know the TRUTH..

Chiedu said...

Freemasons have hosptials!

Blood thirsty muslims have hospitals!

The catholic church has so much blood on it's hands!

Blood of Pope John Paul I, it killed!

Blood of protestants, blood of men that tried to translate the bible into english!

The blood of people it leads astray!

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Lyka said...

I believed in what she said but i think it happened long time ago...
It says that she was born on 1898 and enter in convent at 1910 and get to escaped there at 1945.

I believe in what she said i think that really happened. But i think it happened when people are still giving brutal punishment for those who have sinned , wether it is in church or in a monarchy.

I love reading stories/history of the fast and i've read some stories where people are being punished brutally.

So i think it happened with those years... where the convent are still strict.

And i think that they don't do that now...

nuns now are allowed to walked in the street and use computer hehe.

Good for them that they was not born on those years

Mayumi said...

http://mikeblume.com/nuns.htm

there are some story about those nun's who have tried to escape in convent....

:) it all happen during 18th century till 19 century

Anonymous said...

I am so glad I am not submitted to an Unholy Godhead...leaders of Inquistions, money launderers, serial child rape, Native American Genocides and linked to Bosnia/Croatian genocide and the Holocaust...what does it take to see your so called "GodHead" is EVIL?

Anonymous said...

I met a man from Canada about 10 years ago who told me that a childhood friend who had become a Roman Catholic priest had offered him a nun to sleep with and it had severely affected his faith. He was still disturbed by it when he told me about it.

Anonymous said...

It is very sad that people pretend to speak God's truth with seeds of hatred rising from their voices. All Christians should know that Jesus challenged us many times on the weakness of OUR faith, not that of others. Condemning any others' faith is the sin of hubris, the sin that felled angels. Let us not imitate that sun.

Anonymous said...

Another Anon., sorry.
I hear gnats and camels, and the whistle of stones thrown unjustly.
Thrice did Jesus ask pPeter, do you love me? And what said Jesus on Peters reply? How does your testimony fit with these words, bro.anon.?

Anonymous said...

Then, those Freemasons and Muslims are beloved by Jesus-His words not mine. They care for the least of His people. How dare we exalt ourselves before Him? Simply listen to his words, and realize how far we are from perfection.

Megan said...

Does it not bother anyone that the pope has a butler, a cook numerous servants, Jesus, and his apostles
Had no second pair of shoes, that was the seduces
Position, unimaginable wealth. Jesus said poverty and not the church was his bride, the bible was bang on, scarlet robes and purple gowns, leave this satanic establishment, even priests are leaving by the droves, admitting the Vatican has been taken over by Satan
Even cArdinals are scared to death. Them only people working in Rome are people looking for careers under, the pretence, this is indeed, the Antichrists
Home, everyone knows it. What happened when the devil tempted Jesus with wealth? He declined, why the hell would he accept it now, seeing the Vatican is one of if not the richest institution in the world, who have funded numerous wars, under the guise of a thin thin charity veneer
Just look up the scandle with the Vatican bank? How right Jesus was, the have eyes, the have ears, still they neither see nor hear!

Sanen said...

Catholic church is about money,power,politics and best manipulations ever. That is enough evidence for me not to trust them.

Masters of coverup and hush hush.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for posting this. I believe this is a false testament. I want to be a nun and you have helped. God bless you!

Vatican Rome said...

you are a liar.

Melissa Orruego said...

I think her story is true, but I don't think all Roman Catholics were or are like that. There have been many in many Christian faiths who pervert the work and treat other people as those own personal slaves. It seems to me that she was in 2 different convents. At one point in time she said that she became a Carmelite nun. Which would indicate that she was moved. Also the church teaches that suffering purifies the soul and went to the trouble of baptizing the babies first, before they killed them. Also, it seems that Canada would be a logical place for this type of thing to happen as taking a ship from certain parts of the country would be logical. I think that some twisted priests and nuns got out of control and did some horrible things. I don't think all convents were or are like this. We have some wonderful Christian examples of Catholic people through the ages such as Mother Teresa. Jesus himself said that there would be wolves in sheep's clothing and to let the wheat grow with the tares. While one may disagree with the Catholic Church and even think that it is the Whore in Reve. It is not right to judge the Catholic people. God has many people in every church and place and one day when He is ready he will call them out of whatever system of worship they are involved in if it is false. But I would encourage all of you to read your Bibles and ask God for truth, His truth and even if this story is true or false not to judge.

Melissa Orruego said...

Anonymous, why did you post a false number?

Rob said...

Whether we can prove "Charlotte" existed as provable or not, sine she was a minor when she went into apostasy. We know rome is apostate and Daniel & Revelation prove the papacy the seat of antichrist. Either way...it also sounds VERY similar to the inquisition reports, so I do not put it past rome. The issue is rome falsely taking on two words: Catholic & Christian. Either way..she is the harlot in Revelation..

Rob said...

Whether we can prove "Charlotte" existed as provable or not, sine she was a minor when she went into apostasy. We know rome is apostate and Daniel & Revelation prove the papacy the seat of antichrist. Either way...it also sounds VERY similar to the inquisition reports, so I do not put it past rome. The issue is rome falsely taking on two words: Catholic & Christian. Either way..she is the harlot in Revelation..

Rob said...

Whether we can prove "Charlotte" existed as provable or not, sine she was a minor when she went into apostasy. We know rome is apostate and Daniel & Revelation prove the papacy the seat of antichrist. Either way...it also sounds VERY similar to the inquisition reports, so I do not put it past rome. The issue is rome falsely taking on two words: Catholic & Christian. Either way..she is the harlot in Revelation..

Rob said...

Whether we can prove "Charlotte" existed as provable or not, sine she was a minor when she went into apostasy. We know rome is apostate and Daniel & Revelation prove the papacy the seat of antichrist. Either way...it also sounds VERY similar to the inquisition reports, so I do not put it past rome. The issue is rome falsely taking on two words: Catholic & Christian. Either way..she is the harlot in Revelation..

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whitenurse said...

I listened to her "testimony" and what jumped out at me is the way the woman speaks - without taking a breath. I have seen this before in the mentally ill.

Anonymous said...

I listened to sister charlotte's yesterday and was appalled and wondered if it was true. She finished her testimony with a powerful testimony of the Lord Jesus Christ leaving me no doubt to the legitimacy of what she was sharing. If one studies the traditions of the catholic church, one will find how they took the idols,traditions,celebrations from the Babylon pagan system. Rev warns about the 'women who rides the beast. and the relious system she represents. God's word tells us to 'come out of her lest you suffer her plagues and destruction'.Presently we are witnessing the pope resign over child abuses,genicide,child trafficking, and a host of other 'sins'. It is ONLY the Blood of Jesus Christ and His resurrection that can save you.'For by grace are you saved through faith in Christ Jesus,not of works,lest any should boast,it is a gift of God.

Trish Farland said...

Listening to her she doesn't sound at all Catholic to me. She sounds so false like a person who has been coached. She makes a few mistakes which a real nun wouldn't make, like saying she was a little novitiate instead of the correct word novice...no nun would make that mistake. She keeps saying Roman Catholic ...nuns and most Catholics refer to themselves as Catholic only.

Anonymous said...

i think this is true for Some Catholic Priests Sexually Abuse Nuns,
Sometimes to Avoid HIV Infection, Reports Say
Nuns around the world have suffered sexual abuse by priests, sometimes resulting in pregnancy and abortion, but church leaders have "fail[ed]... to discipline" the clerics involved, the New York Times reports. According to five reports written by senior members of women's religious orders and a priest, cases of sexual abuse against nuns have been reported in at least 23 countries. In one report, Sister Maura O'Donohue, a physician and a member of the Medical Missionaries of Mary, wrote that women were "forced" by priests into sexual liaisons in order to obtain certificates or recommendations needed for work in a diocese. O'Donohue also recorded cases where nuns were "recommend[ed]" by priests to take contraception, sometimes being told that oral contraceptives would prevent the transmission of HIV. The report included "disturbing" accounts of nuns impregnated by priests, including one case in Malawi where 29 sisters in one congregation became pregnant by priests in the diocese. Another example explained the case of a nun who became pregnant by a priest and was brought by that priest to a Catholic health institution to undergo an abortion. After the nun died during the procedure, the priest performed her funeral mass, O'Donohue wrote (Hedges, New York Times, 3/21). The National Catholic Reporter said that "no comprehensive statistics" exist on the sexual abuse of nuns, but the "frequency and consistency of the reports ... point to a problem that needs to be addressed" (AP/Washington Times, 3/21).
Vatican Response
The authors of the reports noted that church leaders often failed to punish or reprimand priests for incidents of abuse. In her report, O'Donohue wrote that while the priests involved in sexual incidents were "usually given mild reprimands," the nuns were often "forced out of the order." And when one superior general "complained" to an archbishop about incidents of sexual abuse, she was replaced. Rev. Robert Vitillo, executive director of the United States Bishops Campaign for Human Development, wrote in a 1994 report, "I myself have heard the tragic stories of religious women who were forced to have sex with the local priest or with a spiritual counselor who insisted that this activity was 'good' for the both of them. Frequently, attempts to raise these issues with local and international church authorities have met with deaf ears" (New York Times, 3/21). The Vatican yesterday "acknowledged" the reports, but added that the incidents of sexual abuse are "restricted to a certain geographic area," without clarification (Reuters/Washington Post, 3/21). Vatican spokesperson Joaquin Navarro-Valls said, "Work is being done both on the training of people and the resolution of individual cases" (New York Times, 3/21). He added, however, that "[s]ome negative cases cannot let us forget the often heroic faith expressed by the large majority of those men and women in religious orders and of the clergy" (Mangan, New York Post, 3/21).

Anonymous said...

“You shall have no other gods before Me."

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments."
(Exodus 20:3-5)

"If you love Me, keep My commands."
(John 14:15)

"Don't worship God with lies and idolatry. For God is Spirit" (John 4:23-24)

ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED...
(2 Tim 3:16)

Anonymous said...

If you seem offended,

"Do not re-write the truth about the Bible and life, just to accommodate your own desires."

THE CREATOR
"Do not add to His words, or He will rebuke you and prove you a liar."
(prov 30:6)

FEAR GOD THE FATHER

"Let their lying lips be silenced, for with pride and contempt they speak arrogantly against the righteous." (Psalm 31:18)

"I, the Lord, created disaster..."
(isaiah 45:7)

romanreb said...

May God have mercy on these pathetic, deluded heathens whose only business is to persecute Christ and his Bride, the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church instituted by him the night he was betrayed! Their ignorance is so profound, so deep, that perhaps they are truly not responsible for their hateful, vicious lies. May Our Lord have mercy on them. May Our Lady and all the Saints pray for them. May Christ the King one day rule in their hearts, and may they feel true contrition for the many sins with which they offend Him!

Anonymous said...

Here is why this story sounds really fake- after one escape she was kidnapped and taken back to a convent. However- later when priests come to kidnap her again- they are powerless to take her because she said she had a new religion.. then later on priests show up at her home again to heckle her- but are powerless to kidnap her at that point too- even though at one time they could just steal her off the street...

This makes no sense- if there is evil like this going on they would have killed her or kidnapped her again. There is no reason evil people like that would simply let her go and let her talk to other people like this. She claims the church basically enslaves these nuns to get money from the church- which they got when she entered the convent- so after her first escape- they would have let her go as they already had what they wanted. The only reason to kidnap her would have been to silence her- which means they would have silenced her the second time around as well- or would have at least killed her when she was alone.

Instead they excommunicate her and let her go this time?? Makes no sense at all. The way it ends with her finding a real Christian religion and living unharmed- you can tell this is anti Catholic propaganda and not a real story. It was written to sell another religion and to damage catholicism. In a real story she would have at the very least have been killed. I mean- one moment they need to kidnap her back to keep her quiet and the next they let her go simply because she has a new religion?? Yeah right... that doesn't add up!!!

She ruined any chance at this story being believable because of the second kidnapping.

Anonymous said...

Using a Social Security number for someone born in 1889 or 1898 would not be adequate proof for anything as in United States we did not start using this system until 1936. If a person wanted to apply for a Social Security card and they were born, for example, in 1889, it's highly probable that they could do so in 1951. Please read the history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_number

FutureSister said...

I did not read her full testimony, but I have recently begun discernment with cloistered Carmelite nuns in my area. I can say that the nuns I have met are absolutely nothing like this. They know the Word of God better than anyone, and you can tell of their closeness to Christ upon meeting them. Yes, they work hard, and they sleep on boards, and they don't eat meat, and they don't wear socks in the cold. But this is because they are willing to suffer as Christ suffered. They eat more than “Sister Charlotte” claims: I know for a fact they eat eggs, fish, and fruit as well as vegetables and bread and that they have three meals a day. They even put some homemade ice cream in the visiting room for me during one of my visits! They also have recreation together and tell stories and laugh, despite “Sister Charlotte” claiming that nuns do not have friends in the convent. One other thing that struck me as odd was that St. Therese had to beg her bishop to enter Carmel at fifteen (years prior to this story), whereas “Sister Charlotte” supposedly entered at twelve, no questions asked. The Carmelites, even in the 1800’s, were wary of accepting someone so young because of their harsh lifestyle.

Anonymous said...

The thing that jumps out at me immediately upon hearing "Sister" Charlotte speak is that she has an accent unlike any other nun I have ever heard. It's a Southern accent, maybe Texas, maybe Tennessee, definitely uneducated. Definitely not Irish, English, Canadian, or even Scotch.

Her story is disturbing and full of emotionally charged details, but as pointed out before, highly deficient in details that could be corroborated. Pairing that story with a social security number of someone with the same first name does not lend the story further credence since we have no way of knowing that it is the right woman.

Anonymous said...

The story of Sister Charlotte has to be one of the worst stories I've ever read. The protagonist was a total Mary Sue. There was some promise when she almost murdered someone, but that ended up just being a flimsy plot device to get the first trite escape scene going.

Overall, the plot sucked, the pace plodded, the other characters unbelievable and unsympathetic. WAY too much reliance on blood and guts to keep the reader awake, but not enough details to keep the story from falling through its numerous plot holes.

It's very important when you're writing historical fiction, even if it's in the horror genre, to do your research. Not just research about the Catholic Church (how do you write a story from a nun's point of view and totally FAIL to mention mass or the Eucharist? FACEPALM.), but other things. For example, passports, visas, overseas travel, and how slave trades actually have historically worked throughout history and as business models. If you're going to date a story in the past, make sure that your details apply to the past. Also, make sure that events don't defy the laws of physics (like how her magical mystery boat rides across the Atlantic - back and forth twice - were so quick and uneventful across the Atlantic that they required no further mention, a passport was needed but there was no customs to clear, and somehow, the boat landed like, right next to the mountains? If the Church had that boat, you better believe that I'd be a believer.

Also: Sister Mary Sue couldn't have traveled on her children's passport, especially a children's passport with no visa, and even still, passports weren't mandatory for Americans until after 1945, after Sister Mary Sue converted to lack-of-lateral-thinking-ism. By the time she left for magical mystery kingdom, the last time she could have gotten a passport was before she went into the convent, when she was 13.

I have an essay I wrote a while ago about how bad of writer this Charlotte Whose-Her-Face was, and why she obviously couldn't break into the mainstream, even though I'm sure there's lots of horror fans out there who would have found the topic rather interesting. I'm curious to find out if she's got any more horror stories out there. I heard she used to do a traveling show. Was it anything like say, Gwar's shows? It seems like they have the same aesthetic.

Anonymous said...

Thanx sister charlotte,i have read a lot of books about catholic elders plus their homosexuality,this prooves all and i know they are people who need proof read books and compare them other than worshipping the devil and pretending to be holy.

Anonymous said...

I was born into a "Christian Religion" and through my induction to my final departure, I learnt one very important fact about all the "So called Christian Religions like RC.. etc The fact was "the more Religious the Organization, Institution or Church exhibits, the more corrupt it becomes internally" The "followers" (and I was one of them" put the "person in charge, Pope, Priest or Minister, on a Pedestal, as the closest to GOD, so that eventually every follower comes to believe that, such a "Holy" person could never do wrong. But they all are Human, and they end up sinning worse than the followers! I know as I did experience this before I left forever my Parents religion. I also might add that my own Mother told us about the RC Convent in Brisbane Australia where they found "hundreds of human infant bones when a Convent was demolished. Maybe you should check that out!

Jim Berry said...

As the brother of a devoted Franciscan nun, I find the story preposterous and insulting. No one who was taught by Catholic nuns could ever believe this tale. Carmalite nuns went to the guillotine during the French Revolution rather than betray their faith. This woman insults their memory. She sounds like a mental case and does much harm with this rant.

Anonymous said...

Prior to 1936 Social Security numbers were not issued, and did not exist. It would make sense for her to have a SS card issued later in life into the 1950's. Also, since she was in a convent much of her life, that would be why there are no other records of her. She did not buy land, marry, or run for office. I want to thank Kmerian for showing Sister Charlotte Keckler did truly exist.

Anna Van Halen said...

I was a student at St.Joseph's Convent for 5 years on the Island of St.Lucia. Although Mother Superior namely Sister, Frances Teresa a Trinidadian Nun seemed cruel to us, the Nuns moved about the community freely, happily and there was no sign of imprisonment like sister Charlotte claims. They had ample freedom to escape if they suffered this so called abuse. You could feel something going on between the Priest and some Nuns from the way they used to blush. But this level of torture claimed by this Phantom Nun seems unreal. Why then does she not give her birth name and all her family history so that we can identify her? I think that this whole story is a scam concocted by some Christian Pastor to discredit the church. The church is their biggest competitor as they grab Parishioners. When I attended St.Joseph's I was a Jehovah's Witness.

Anonymous said...

SSI wasnt around until the 1930s and then not enacted on until even later. The RCC is loaded with pagan bs. just as the pope wears Dagon (a pagan fish god) on his head and the cardinals wear the mitre of saturn, and even the cap of mithra (assyrian god). its all to take the focus off of our FIRST LOVE!!! the WORD OF GOD or JESUS CHRIST (the word became flesh john 1:1-14). instead the read out of a dis-MISSAL to the dis-MASS. Father says to "come out of her (mystery babylon) my people..." Some will only do it after theyve been deceived.

Anonymous said...

No matter how you deny it Catholic Texan, it is true that a Catholic can steal a certain amount of money and not have to confess it. this is taught in cathechism.
Also, deny all the story of Sister Charlotte in any way you want, such as denying her sexual allegations because she gives no proof. In past days of the 1900s, in the old countries , in Ireland, there were plenty and plenty of stories among people of former nuns , girls and boys abused by the priests. but especially were known the girls sexually molested by the priests and the children the priests produced. It is only in the last few years that these things are known world wide whereas before the
Church could keep it secret while the people spoke of it among themselves
Your church is the Synagogue of Satan and is the cause of the troubles in the world to rule it .

kmerian said...

No anonymous, it is not true that a Catholic is allowed to steal a small amount of money, but if it is in the catechism like you claim, then you should be able to provide the paragraph number. As to her abuse claims, the fact that abuse did occur, does not make her instantly credible.

Sylvia said...

The Roman Catholic Church attempts to put itself in the place of God and be co-equal in authority - Isn't this the sin that got Lucifer damned and the lie he used to seduce Eve to disobey God; that she could be equal with God.

I am simply a believer that our Lord Jesus Christ Almighty became flesh and sacrificed himself for our salvation and remission of our sins. Only the Almighty Father, Son and Holy Spirit one God are due are adoration, worship, praise, appreciation and complete obedience; NO man, woman (e.g. Mary), beast or demon and that includes Papal or earthly priest deserves it and to request or attempt to coerce it is the same blasphemy committed by Satan. Only God created us and only He redeemed us no one else. (Just to be clear I do not believe Mary ever appeared and would ask to be worshipped as equal to Jesus - But a fallen angel would have no problem - They already know they are damned).

As Christ said:
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

And The Father said:
Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me

The Roman Catholic conveniently omits God's words of Exodus 20:4-5 in the Catechism and rewrites the Ten Commandments.

Lets' look at what else the Papacy has said regarding its authority.


Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility.
Quoadea quoeconcernunt papae dignitatem, auctoritatem, seu potestatem, et infallibilitatem.

#1. "The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God."
#1. "Papa tantae est dignitatis et cesitudinis, ut non sit simplex homo, sed quasi Deus, et Dei vicarius."

#13. "Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions."
#13. Hinc Papa triplici corona coronatur tanquam rex coeli, terre et infernoram."

#18. "As to papal authority, the Pope is as it were God on earth, Sole sovereign of all the faithful of Christ, chief king of kings, having a plentitude of unbroken power, entrusted by the omnipotent God to govern the earthly and heavenly kingdoms."
#18. " Deveniendo ad Papae auctoritatem, Papa est quasi Deus in terra unicaus Christifidelium princeps, regum omnium rex maximus, plenitudinem potestatis continens, cui terreni simul, ac coelestis imperii gubernacula ab omnipotenti Deo credita sunt."

#30. "The Pope is of so great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws."
#30. "Papa tantae est auctoritatis et potestatis, ut possit quoque leges divinas modificare, declarare, vel interpretari, ad num."

Source: Lucius Ferraris, “Papa,” art. 2, in his Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica. (“Handy Library”), Vol. 5, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition, column 1823, Latin.

Here are the relevant Scanned pages from Ferraris' Prompta Bibliotheca for those who would like to see the original Latin text of the above quotes.

just copy and paste the below txt into the address bar.

aloha.net/~mikesch/prompta.htm

jacko said...

Charlotte Keckler was a fraud and a professional liar as the following data proves beyond a doubt.
Charlotte Edna Keckler was born Rhoda Edna Cackler April 12th 1898 in Lucas Co. Iowa to her parents William Henry Cackler & Cora Belle Triggs. Her parents married April 18th 1888 in Spencer, Clay, Iowa and they had 9 children, four boys & five girls, Charlotte ( Rhoda) was the fifth in line. Charlotte was named after her paternal grandmother who was Rhoda Charlotte Porter and used her grandmother’s second name for her fictitious name aong with a corrupted version of her family name.
The family were definitely not catholic as Charlotte’s grandmother divorced her husband, and Charlotte’s grandfather’s brother also divorced and remarried. Apparently Charlottes grandparents on both sides moved to Lucas Co. to settled it. They were of some Protestant denomination, perhaps Lutherans? So all her rant of “I was reared in a devout Roman Catholic home” is completely false. If Charlotte had been reared a catholic she would know perfectly well that the teachings she declares are catholic as regards telling lies and robbing up to S40 are totally false and a medevial invention by Protestand Churches to descredit the Catholic Church.
William, Cora and their first five children (Charlotte aged 2) were living in Doyle Township Hopeville town, Clarke, Iowa on the 1900 census.
By 1910 they had moved to Wolf River, Doniphan, Kansas. The next two children after Charlotte were born in Missouri and the last two were born in Kansas. (Charlotte is age 12 on this census).
On the 1920 census the family is at Hiawatha, Brown, Kansas, and Charlotte is 21. The family name is mistranscribed as Cacler.
In 1925 according to Kansas State census Charlotte is still in Kansas.

The 1930 census finds her parents and her youngest sibling in Sabetha, Nemaha, Kansas.
And Charlotte was in Hiawatha, Brown County, Kansas age 30, should be 32 in 1930! working at a hospital and as a bookkeeper.
So how does this lady mannage to be with her parents until 1925 and at the same time declares she had been locked away in a convent since 1910 With Dificulty I would think!
According to the 1940 census, Charlote was living in Moline, Rock Island, Illinois in 1935.
The following is the information on her 1940 census record and her name is Rhoda C. Keckler, this is the first reference to having changed her surname.
She was lodging and lived at 19th Street, Moline, Rock Island, Illinois
High school 4th year, nurse, age 34, (42 would be correct) why did she lie about her age?
Her Uncle John Cackler lived in Moline ward 4, Rock Island, Illi. On the 1920 & 1930 census. This town was 400 miles from Sabetha, Nemaha, where Charlottes’ father lived.
When her eldest brother died in 1975 Charlotte named as Miss Rhoda Kackler was in Napa California. He was a member of the Christian Church.
It is clear from all this data that Charlotte never left the USA for any lenth of time and was never locked away in a convent.
This guy claims “I helped publish the book Charlotte wrote, FROM CONVENT TO PENTECOST. She was in a convent in Quebec, Canada. Charlotte WAS a Carmelite nun. She would not say it was in Canada during her testimony. But it was.”
Sorry to say the first Carmelite convent in Quebec, Canada was founded from USA in 1877 and only lasted until 1877 due to lack of numbers and revenue. The sisters returned to USA. The second attempt was made in 1951 and was a success, so that couldn’t be true!

jacko said...

Sorry,Correction: I made a mistake in my previous post; "the first Carmelite convent in Quebec, Canada was founded from USA in 1877 and only lasted until 1877". It should have read, founded from USA in 1875 and only lasted until 1877. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Have you heard of the Residential schools in Canada for Native Americans. Here is an excerpt. "According to Glen Coulthard of the University of Alberta, The Canadian government's policies included the destruction of much of Native culture, values and religion. 7 With the help of the Christian churches, these traditions were largely replaced with versions of western Christianity. The main players were the Roman Catholic Church, the Anglican Church of Canada, the United Church of Canada, and the Presbyterian Church in Canada. The government financed residential school systems; religious institutions ran them. Sometimes, children were kidnapped and taken long distances from their communities in order to attend school. Once there, they were held captive, isolated from their families of origin, and forcibly stripped of their language, religion, traditions and culture. Many native children grew up with little knowledge of their original culture.

Not mentioned in Coulthard's essay was the extremely high level of physical and sexual abuse suffered by Native children at the religious schools. The result has been that, as adults, many suffer with depression, have difficulty in parenting, and live with a loss of culture. Some commit suicide." This actually seems in line with what Charlotte experienced.

Anonymous said...

This story is 100% real. Her story is not an isolated event. I have a reliable source that went to the Vatican in Rome and bribed a cardinal for $200 US dollars to show him around inside. One of the most startling things he said he saw was a large underground room about the size of a football field that was stacked from floor to ceiling with the bones of newborn babies. They were the babies that were born to the nuns that the priests got pregnant since the early beginnings of the catholic church . . .

Anonymous said...

Alright, I really do not understand why you bother to continue answering these nuts.

I am a Russian Orthodox Priest and I will "give my witness" (if I may borrow their parlance)that I firmly believe that the Church of Rome is a church in schism and possible Apostasy but these ridiculous charges are absurd.

Frankly, a Roman Catholic nun wouldn't cut it a week in an Orthodox women's monastery so they certainly wouldn't have survived this crackpots stories.

Of course, with the emptying of the convents following Vatican II there should be millions of former nuns and sisters who would be happy to verify this crackpot's "Testimony"! Surely THAT alone should shut these nuts up!
Christ is Risen!

Jacko said...

To anonymous who said that Charlotte's story is a 100% real, can you please provide the evidence?

I must say your "reliable source that went to the Vatican" must be having a good laugh at your expense! Come on now, let's get real, why on earth would they want to keep those baby bones? don't you think that most of them if they are there since the beginning of the catholic church 2000 years mind you! would be well and truly disintegrated by now? And you say "he bribed a cardinal for $200 US dollars", now if you had said something in the range of $2000 your story might be more credible, do you think a cardinal of the RC would lower himself to just $200?

Obviously if you can believe that joke you can believe anything! I don't have anything to do with the RC church but reality is reality and truth is truth. No matter how many cases of abuse in the RC have been proved true that doesn't automatically make every story of abuse true and when you come across a story like Charlotte's which is so full of incoherences it's time to do some serious research which I have done and I present it here for the sake of honesty!

This is how I did my research and how I came to the conclusions that I did!
First of all, I have been doing family research for over 10 years, I don't claim to be an expert but have acquired some knowledge and experience in this field over time.

The only information I had to go on to begin my research was the data supplied in Charlotte’s death record which is already posted on this site.

I entered this data in the search engine on every family research site I could find for the USA with no results which coincide with other people’s research who tried to track this lady down. This is exceptionally rare and strange that you get absolutely no returns for neither births, marriages, census, etc. The golden rule in genealogy is when you get no results with the names you have to branch out into alternative spellings, which I did and no returns either. Then I deleted her first name and that´s where I got the 1900 census which gives April 1898, as birth date and Iowa as birth place which correspond exactly with Charlotte’s death record’s data. Also the first name was Edna and coincides with Charlotte’s second name with an “n” added on.
Then I went on to look for a marriage for a William Cackler & a Cora B. and bingo Cora´s surname was Triggs, once again this squares up with the death record. From there I went on to look for all census with corroborative evidence i.e. parents & children’s names, places of birth and ages that more or less square up as ages on census records are usually very unreliable as most people didn't know their real age as it was very seldom required back then.

I am convinced that all this corroborative evidence proves beyond a doubt that Charlotte Keckler & Rhoda Edna Cackler is one and the same person.

To be continued,

Jacko said...

2nd part
From there I was able to go on to further research. Ancestry.com has 17 online family trees with this family in it and you can find more on line family trees if you Google the parent´s names.

Just a few examples of incoherences in this story;

Charlotte states that she had a brother a catholic priest and his name was Chet and lived on the west coast. After been made a priest he was supposed to have lived with his housekeeper for seven years, after that he left the R. church and married her. It appears that priests in the RC have to study at least seven years after high school before they can be ordained, so he would have to be about 25 when made a priest and at least 32 when he married, yet Charlotte’s four brothers were all married before they were 26 years of age. Her youngest brother Chester is the only brother who lived, married and died on the west coast, he moved there after 1935, the other three brothers all lived and died in Kansas. On Chester’s 1940 census record it states he was a labourer, married, high school 4th year and lived in Los Angeles, Ca. He was 26 when he married in 1936 in Los Angeles. As she says her priest brother was Chet, we can only presume she was referring to Chester. This data obviously doesn't square up!

She also declared that when she returned from the convent all her siblings had been to college except herself, however the census tells us otherwise. The three older brothers had only done grade school on the 1940 census and were all labourers or farm hands. Both Chester and Charlotte did up to 4th year high school.

According to Charlotte, the doctor her father called in to see her after her first escape from the convent was the same Dr. who brought her into the world and he was also her godfather and he could only recognized her by her birth mark. At the same time giving to understand that her parents were living in the same town where she was born only in a different house, yet they had changed town three times since Charlotte was born?

She states her father was a very wealthy man yet he doesn´t appear to have owned his own house on census records and was also a farm hand?

Her mother was senile and totally paralysed and didn't recognize Charlotte when she returned home yet she was able to give orders to her lawyer to leave money to Charlotte when she learned that her father had disinherited her?

She declares, after her Uncle John died, she went on to nurse for three years in a roman catholic hospital, of all places! Was she not afraid that they would ship her back to the convent again given her last experience? I have no doubt I would have run a million miles from anything catholic if I had been through that hell!

to be continued

Jacko said...

This passage along with others in Charlotte’s story is what really got under my skin and set off all the alarms that this story can´t be true and gave me the motivation to investigate her whole story.

“As the years dragged by I learned to use a hammer, saw, shovel and anything else a man normally does. We worked very hard, performing heavy manual labor, digging out underground rooms and tunnels, building walls, plastering, etc. Often we were two, three or four miles back in the tunnels. Sometimes we wondered if we even had voices because of the strict rule of silence, and would speak in whispers to each other. The very next morning Mother Superior would call the offenders out and say, "You are going to do penance." We wondered how she could have heard us. One day we learned that all thirty-five miles of tunnel under the convent were wired so she could hear every whisper.”

Can someone please explain how on earth young girls and women with presumable a very limited education would have the know-how to dig out and build tunnels for miles underground, without them caving in and provide them with ventilation and on top of that bug the whole place, something that wasn't invented until 1941? And nothing less than Thirty-five miles, a feat that not even the best engineers in the world would have been able to accomplish without all their studies and equipment! Besides, lets presume the convent would have at most an acre or two of land, keep in mind, one square mile = 640 acres (260ha) for what purpose would they want or need 35 miles?
This is so far-fetched one would have to be pretty crazy to swallow this fat fish!

What is truly amazing about this story is that the Pentecostal church in Napa, Ca. should have been privy to all Charlotte's background information when she started her ministry in that Church, why haven’t they come forward in all these years to provide the evidence to back up this story. This is a very big “WHY”?

Charlotte wasn’t afraid in life to travel around for 14 years telling her story and her written story wasn't to be published until after her death so why wasn't that evidence supplied in her published account?

To the best of my knowledge I don’t think as many have claimed that the fact that the rc church didn't take a libel case against Charlotte would constitute proof either ways and very unlikely would stand in a court of law.

I personally could not possible accept and believe a story such as Charlotte's without some supporting evidence, it would be very dishonest of me to do so!

I don`t think it could ever be acceptable for Christians to sell truth for lies nor vice versa and that is what is the whole aim of my posting!
Thank you!

Patricia said...

Thank you Sister, for your sufferings and prayers for sinners like myself. I love you!

Anonymous said...

I don't believe this claim. Let Jesus and Our Lady handle it now.

Anonymous said...

I do believe the account of Sister Charlotte. There are loads of stories of institutionalized abuse by nuns as well as priests. Magdalene Asylum for young women in Ireland is infamous (and now closed) for the abuses committed by nuns and priests and it was covered up for years. I see no reason to disbelieve this ex-nun simply because she doesn't state the convent where she suffered. As Catholics we must emulate Christ and NOT cover up the sins of the church. Its the concealment, denial and deceit that will be the church's undoing, not shedding light.

Anonymous said...

Addendum: Also there have been burial sites around convents in Ireland where they have found the corpses of babies. Just check out this NYTimes article which sites

"A recently discovered septic tank holding the skeletons of nearly 800 Irish babies is not the only sad burial ground of unwanted kids.The grave was found this month by a historian at a home run by nuns for women who committed the “mortal sin” of unwed pregnancy in Tuam, County Galway. The children suffered serious neglect, and many were left “emaciated,” with “flesh hanging loosely on limbs,” according to the newspaper Irish Central.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/mass-graves-irish-tots-writer-article-1.1822118

What's offensive is that the church speaks out against abortion as an evil and yet this is how the church treats the 'unwanted' children of St. Mary's Mother and Baby's Home in Ireland.

Its healthy to criticize the church where it needs critique and to praise it when it does better. Right now the church has more than a few skeletons in the closet that needs to be aired out. To criticize is not being "anti-catholic", Catholics want to improve the church not hide its sins.

Anonymous said...

And don't even get me started on the Boys Town and other clergy abuse. Its shameful. The church should be ashamed. Catholics should feel anger and a revolutionary zeal to remove the corruption out of the church. Preying on the vulnerable is a sin.

Anonymous said...

I see here a battle between too Christian Cults neither represents the true and unaltered teachings of Jesus who said ' And even you can be like me and more' or did you fail to take that in Christian. And Be IN the world but not OF it So much in so few words yet so few of you grasp the implication and there depth of meaning Why bother say casting such great wisdom on us if we are not also the children of God led astray in a far distant past. And the satin that led us astray is still hard at work making sure we it will never be easy for us to join together. You Christians at each others throats in stead of working together on maters of love and peace and using the power of your church to support some love and peace between moslems and Christian NO You would rather believe moslems are evil and you are rather convinced of this even though the real life evidence just does not exist that even 5% of moslems wish destruction on us. And this is a wonder considering the amount of death and destruction that has been visited upon and condoned by so many Christian churches. I am a deist like Ben Franklin. I was born to holocaust survivors - my father served in the Polish and Russian armies - he saw enough death and destruction - he saw the trainloads of frozen German soldiers being returned to there homeland
He did not hate them; he did not yearn for vengeance; That is not the thinking of one who survives what he survived. Six times he walked away from death 5 of them because of 5 Germans who warned him and the sixth because of a baptist in a catholic country the promoted lies about Judaic people. He said what you believe is your business and what I believe I keep to myself, he just lived his beliefs. Go with virtue and love and may we all walk with Jesus someday soon for where he is must certainly be wonder filled. He is not in heaven just in a heavenly land in another part of this galaxy - so I believe - and he once lived here thousands of years ago and that is why he said and even you can be like me and more so let us start catching up oh children of creation. He is in a land where no one grows old and they live in what we would call perfect harmony. They watch over us but do not interfere for the most part. They sometimes make mistakes for even though they are God like to us they cannot see more then 100 years into the future so you see my Jesus is not perfect. Perfection will always be in front of us in this never - ending story we live in. Love is all there is. If technology was used wisely every one on earth could live like a king or Queen. And we would still be A thousandfold short of life on Jesus’s Planet by the way Moses lives there to. Seriously. And I am not leaving my phone #. But your welcome to stay in touch.

Blessed said...

Oh God please be with us, forgive me Lord if I am wrong, forgive us who are blinded by the world and choose to believe with our eyes. Stir our hearts and make us new, help us choose to walk/live by faith. People perish for the lack of knowledge, fear ignorance more than evil. Lord heavenly father, beautiful sovereign God manifest your spirit upon us. Let it be your will to make things right. Be with us Lord when we choose to defend the church instead of your word. Speak clarity to us when we stand by religion instead of our God. Bring revelation to us when we live only by what we know, act as what we have seen and learned instead of your promises and direction. Lead us to a breakthrough to stand high and proud defending only you and nothing else but you. Jesus Christ be with us and nurture our faith in nothing else but faith in you my Glorifying King. JESUS, in your name I ask to brake off all negativity off of us as humans fighting with each other trying to defend news that has mislead our faith in you my lord speak life, revelation, serenity, faith, alignment, the will to know you, healing, and abundant blessings of overflowing faith in you. In the name of Jesus Christ let it be your will. Have Mercy on us. Thank you Lord for your love, grace, sacrifice, and eternal life.
In the name of Jesus Christ I pray. AMEN.
Don't become enemies of each other, stand by your faith in your Lord and nothing else, don't fall under the trap of bitterness, but please do walk in faith and live Christ like, love and be kind to each other. God loves you already. The way you choose to live, the actions you take will forever speak louder, not just for God to hear and see, but for everyone else. Know your real God as he is a good God. Guilt, shame, and condemnation are NOT of God. God is a good God, be good to each other, if your actions and treatments to others are not in alignment to the good merciful God we have, I pray that you check your self and realize where those ungodly ways are rooted from. Know your God, receive his message by reading his word. God is an awesome God who loves you and knows your heart.
Blessings and favor!